What does an A student look like?
This post isn't directly related to in-course work, but I share it because it was sparked by 2 comments I heard or overheard MGMT 250 students make today during grading contract meetings:
1. "I am going to contract for a B. I am not that smart, and I think anything more than a B will overwhelm me."
2. "I have to work really hard. I am not as smart as everyone else, but I know where my strengths and weaknesses are, and I work hard."
First of all, I believe that both of these comments show an admirable degree of self-awareness, which is something we are trying to work on in MGMT 250. Secondly, however, I wonder if both of these students weren't selling themselves short. I would like to offer my own two-cents about what it takes to be a good student. I will do so with a story and then a little commentary afterwards.
STORY:
I was the salutatorian of my high school class. The student who finished first was a really hard worker. She did all of her homework. She was organized. She studied a lot for the tests. I was the opposite. Since 4th grade I had stopped doing 90% of my homework at home. I did most of my homework during other classes on the day the work was due. I was the character walking to tests with my classnotes in my hands, trying to cram at the last minute. Most of my organization came from external sources: mom, my basketball schedule, friends who wanted to study in groups, etc.
On school tests, we both tended to get perfect scores. On the SATs, however, I did very much better. "PROOF!" I thought, that I was the better student. I felt somewhat disgruntled to finish second in class rank, but I felt some sort of pride in knowing that I had done much less schoolwork overall and that the SAT told me I was "smarter."
I don't know how my former classmate did in college, though I am willing to bet that those excellent grades kept rolling in. I, however, was confronted by a massive lack of external structure, poor habits I had spent years perfecting, and a sudden fear that maybe I wouldn't be able to catch up. Workwise, college was a major struggle for me, and I soon came to realize that my high school's valedictorian certainly had the superior approach for student success. Brains may be a big part of being successful in school, but hard work and organization are must-have's.
COMMENTARY:
The above story is not subtle, so I will focus here on the questions that it raises for me:
- what does a successful student look like? to what extent can hard work and organization overcome "intellectual deficiencies"?
- when we think about success, what are we thinking in relation to? "how successful am I compared to my classmates?", "how successful am I compared to what I am capable of achieving?", "how successful am i compared to what others expect me to be?"
- how much should grades define the student experience? to what extent do extracurricular activities/interests and other relationships shape who we are and where we will go one day? I feel that I had a rich, well-rounded and relatively very happy high school experience, but I was also unknowingly developing skills that I have spent the next 10 years un-learning and re-tooling.
To bring this full circle, let me say that I am happy that MGMT 250 allows students to reflect on some of these ideas in terms of yourselves as college students in transition to adult lives. While I don't believe there is one right answer to any of the questions I posted above, I do believe that grappling with these questions is fundamental to how we shape our identities and self-esteem.
Lastly, to the 2 students I heard today, let me assure you that knowing yourselves and working hard put you in a better place for success than you might realize. You both strike me as exemplary students by any standards.

Comments
Posted by: Jordan Schoenfeld
Posted on: September 7, 2006 11:36 PM
I'm surprised to see that you had 2 people come in on the same day who say they were going to earn B's in the class. I think an A can be attained by anyone who works hard enough. It may be they were selling themselves short, but maybe they just didn't want to pressure to have to live up to something.
I can relate to how you went through high school and ended up with high test scores but not the highest GPA. In high school I seemed to just glide through glasses getting by with a decent GPA, but I was always more consumed by sports and friends. Unfortunately, I did not reach my “intellectual” potential in high school. This is what propels me to work hard in college, and I’m fortunate to have the opportunity to do so. It took a lot of self-discipline and self-awareness to change my bad habits of not studying properly and doing homework the night before it was due. I'm glad I was able to face reality and induce a change before I carried on those bad habits to college. I basically had several talks with myself about what I did wrong and what I need to do to improve.
I think being successful differs to every person. Being successful to one person may mean not failing a class, being successful to another could mean getting straight A's, and being successful to another may be winning the football game this weekend. I think success, at least to me, is the ability to be content and proud of your work once it's finished, knowing you did all that you could. I'm sure you know that success, in relation to school, is one thing. But success, in relation to life, is another thing. What does a successful student look like? I think it depends on the mindset of the student. Someone could have the “look”, get the grades, be king/queen of extracurricular, but go home at night still not being happy with themselves, and to me that’s not success. Your questions, at the least, are very perplexing.
Posted by: Increase Confidence
Posted on: July 27, 2007 11:12 AM
I quite agree that brains could be a big part of being successful in school, and hard work and organization are must-haves. Hard work and organization helps us increase confidence. You will appreciate a simple thing if you have put an effort on it. While organization helps us be more open-minded by having to deal with other people's opinions and ideas.
To increase confidence is important for a student to be able to develop more self-esteem. It helps them become successful with their goals. When we say successful, it would mean of the goals they want for themselves and not what others want or expect they'd achieve.
Posted by: Googlelady
Posted on: October 1, 2007 06:34 PM
I admin I was an A student and there were many more like me but everyone thinks that A students are those that study 24\24 and I was not like this. I can make some A students factors:
- Ability to understand things.
- Hard work without exhauting yourself.
- Making their Goals clear and work for it. Not waiting them to appear from nothing.
- Relaxing your mind doing other things than study.